Pintoo Shome commented on 'Ethics Discussions at PEA Soup: Cécile Fabre's...
Cecile, thanks for your reply and sorry for the delay in expressing my views on the two points raised by you, d) and e). My views on (d) is already there in my previous post of 'a weak utilitarian...
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Pinto, thanks for your comments, which raise difficult, troubling issues. Regarding (d): well, that doctor may well nurture the hope that her patients would see sense, but I am troubled precisely by...
View ArticlePintoo Shome commented on 'Ethics Discussions at PEA Soup: Cécile Fabre's...
Cecile, may we consider these for the military doctor - a) she is a person with a sense of duty above all else of treating human beings as end in themselves and restoring them to good health to the...
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Pintoo, thanks for this - esp for the clarification regarding your viewson mercenaries. Let me respond to the very first claim you make in your post, as regards to doctors (whether civilian or...
View ArticlePintoo Shome commented on 'Ethics Discussions at PEA Soup: Cécile Fabre's...
Cecile – Thanks for raising your doubt and questions. First, a military doctor and a civil doctor both have the moral duty to treat all patients as equal humans who have a right to live and restore...
View ArticleCecile Fabre commented on 'Ethics Discussions at PEA Soup: Cécile Fabre's...
Pinto (if I may) - I have doubts about the usefulness of the distinction military/civilians. For a start, on the account you suggest, why would a military doctor (as opposed to a civilian doctor...
View ArticlePintoo Shome commented on 'Ethics Discussions at PEA Soup: Cécile Fabre's...
I thank Cecile Fabre for her clarification that here we are concerned with the ethical aspects during an ongoing war only after it has unfolded and events preceding is not within the scope of our...
View ArticleDavid Shoemaker commented on 'Ethics Discussions at PEA Soup: Cécile Fabre's...
Thanks very much for your fascinating paper and contributions to the discussion here, Cecile. There's obviously a lot to take in (which is what I suspect many are doing now), but hopefully the dialogue...
View ArticleC Fabre commented on 'Ethics Discussions at PEA Soup: Cécile Fabre's "Guns,...
Reply to MAssimo 1. Pure functionalist argument (PFA) Massimo distinguishes between two needs which combatants incur whilst fighting: those the meeting of which serves to enhance their ability to fight...
View ArticleC Fabre commented on 'Ethics Discussions at PEA Soup: Cécile Fabre's "Guns,...
On the discussion between Josh, Doug Dan and Victor re ‘providing the means of fighting’ I basically agree with Doug (11/1, 11:38) that, even if guns kill, not food, food is nevertheless a means of...
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Victor suggests an important difference between civiliansm and civiliansw: if the soldiers whom the latter help do not go on killing, then helping them is permissible (even mandatory.) Not so with...
View ArticleJosh Glasgow commented on 'Ethics Discussions at PEA Soup: Cécile Fabre's...
Some technical difficulties seem to have cropped up. The rest of Cecile's replies follow: 1.2. On the liability threshold Setting those various points aside, however, the main issue (at least to me)...
View ArticleCecile Fabre commented on 'Ethics Discussions at PEA Soup: Cécile Fabre's...
1.1 (Ced) So much, for now, on causal responsibility. With regard to moral responsibility, Jeff argues that unjust combatants and unjust non-combatants can hardly ever plead (ex post) unavoidable...
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C. Fabre. Reply to Peasoup comments made between Jan 11 and Jan 13 2010-01-14 First of all, let me thank the editors of Peasoup for selecting the article: it is an honour for me to help start what...
View ArticleJonathan Quong commented on 'Ethics Discussions at PEA Soup: Cécile Fabre's...
Hi Victor, Thanks for the reply. On your first point - it might be true that McMahan's version of the moral responsibility account of liability won't yield the result you want in this case, but that...
View ArticleVictor Tadros commented on 'Ethics Discussions at PEA Soup: Cécile Fabre's...
Jon It's a tempting proposal but I'm not sure. First, I think that it is sometimes wrong to harm a person to avert an objectively threat which they are morally responsible for creating. For example,...
View ArticleMassimo Renzo commented on 'Ethics Discussions at PEA Soup: Cécile Fabre's...
Thanks to Cecile’s for a terrific paper and to Jeff for involving me in this exchange. Here are 3 objections to the way Cecile deals with the pure functionalist account and the moralized functionalist...
View ArticleJonathan Quong commented on 'Ethics Discussions at PEA Soup: Cécile Fabre's...
Just a small point on Victor's last comment regarding liability and innocent threats. Victor you suggest that whether some version of the moral responsibility account of liability is...
View ArticleDavid Shoemaker commented on 'Ethics Discussions at PEA Soup: Cécile Fabre's...
This is really interesting, Victor. I think I might actually share your thought that moral responsibility isn't what matters here, given some more consideration about the killing of innocents....
View ArticleVictor Tadros commented on 'Ethics Discussions at PEA Soup: Cécile Fabre's...
Hello David I think I agree with your intuitions about the difference between the baby case and the marine case. Causal language seems to get a bit messy here (why should the specificity of the...
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